
We Need to Talk About Mr. Global – Part Three
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In this 4-part series, finance expert and former US government official Catherine Austin Fitts and author and political satirist C.J. Hopkins meet for an exciting mental journey into the depths of the modern finance and propaganda world.
In this part we dive into the world of propaganda and ask some important questions: How was it possible to establish the “new reality”? How could such a majority of the population be deceived? Or was it not deceit but coercion?
When two people from such completely different worlds come together, their approach is naturally creative and offers both, the necessary seriousness and a pinch of humor. A great mix for such important topics!
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COVID-19 has divided the world, most recently between the vaccinated and unvaccinated. Well, they're living under lockdown with no full access to society or jobs. They're also facing fines and even jail. Many American companies from Google to CNN and United Airlines have made the vaccine compulsory for staff. Geimpfte werden in Zukunft wohl mehr Rechte haben als Ungeimpfte. Hundreds of millions of people around the world have received these life-saving vaccines. We know and it's been proven how safe and effective they are. You're not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations. It's as simple as black and white. You're vaccinated, you're safe, you're unvaccinated, you're at risk. Vaccinated people do not carry the virus, don't get sick. Wir impfen Deutschland zurück in die Freiheit.
No one has the right not to get a vaccine. Wer sich dem Impfangebot verweigert, verletzt sogar das moralische Gebot des kategorischen Imperativs im Sinne von Immanuel Kant. This is becoming a pandemic of the unvaccinated. Screw your freedom, because with freedom comes obligations and responsibilities. We know that we can't trust the unvaccinated, that they have been walking around without masks. And in fact, that's what led to the surge that we're seeing. And Dr. Fauci said that if hospitals get any more overcrowded, they're going to have to make some very tough choices about who gets an ICU bed. That choice doesn't seem so tough to me. Vaccinated person having a heart attack? Yes, come right on in, we'll take care of you.
Unvaccinated guy who gobbled horse goo? Rest in peace, Wheezy. It drives me crazy. We are trapped, so many of us are trapped in this pandemic movie. In talking, speaking in terms, arguing over, you know, well, how accurate is, you know, the PCR test and how, you know, this. And as long as we remain trapped in the terms of this simulation, we are unable to focus on this. And, you know, people arguing about, you know, vaccination passes and how much privileges should, you know, unvaccinated people have. And what I've been trying to do is cut through it and say, it's not, you're not talking about vaccinated, unvaccinated passes. You're talking about the imposition of a social segregation system globally. Well, no, it's mostly that you're talking about the implementation of a slavery system.
Well, right now, I'm trying to keep it on a level that people can process right now. So I don't go all the way all the time. I'm just saying, look at what's going on. I go all the way because somebody's got to. Somebody has to. I'll be the bad guy.
How can we help people out of the simulation while they still have a chance to save their lives? Right. Well, of course, you lived in New York City. So you, I'm sure you've ridden the New York City subway system. A few times, yeah. I used to be the senior managing underwriter for the New York City subway system. And what I will tell you is, if you look down on the tracks, there are three tracks. There's the tracks, the two tracks that the train runs on. Right. But then there's a third rail where the power runs. Right. Okay. And you've got a trim tab that sort of flips over and touches the third rail. So in our society, what the central bankers want is to make sure that the layperson doesn't see or touch the third rail.
Correct. Right. So they don't want us touching the power lines. And the goal of propaganda, one of the goals, of many goals, is to keep people away from the power lines, but to also puppy train them to know that if they touch the power lines, they're going to get electrocuted. Correct. So explain to me how the propaganda machinery financed by the central bankers who finance everything, including with your tax dollar, how do they do that? How do they keep people away from the third rail? I think there's a common understanding of propaganda that propaganda works by deception, by telling us lies. And so the victims of propaganda are people who are operating under an illusion. They believe the lies that the propagandists are telling us.
But I don't think it's the primary purpose. The primary purpose of propaganda is not really to deceive anybody, but it is to demarcate the territory of acceptable belief and views. We've been seeing it very, very clearly with the rollout of the new normal. So the propaganda was rolled out in the beginning. There were people, you know, dropping dead in the streets. In China, the pictures were rolled out. The first publicized fatality rates were going to be 3.4 percent. You know, there was hundreds of millions of people dead. And when the deaths didn't materialize, very blatantly, the propaganda switched to cases, right? And it was almost overnight. And right away, I mean, critics and doctors and medical and science professionals came out and said, You know, wait a minute, we're defining medical cases, you know, as people who we have tested, you know, with our PCR test that, you know, was never designed to diagnose anything.
And we've detected, you know, scraps of something, you know, and now they are a medical case, even though they're perfectly healthy. Right. They're asymptomatic. Many, many people came out and explained this, you know, immediately made no difference whatsoever, right? And on and on and on as each wave of the propaganda has been rolled out. And it can be frustrating for those of us who are actually focusing on the facts. And we think, what is wrong with people? Why can't they? We're showing them. We're showing them the facts. We're showing them the evidence, right? And they continue to believe in this story, in this propaganda. And I think the mistake is in thinking that these people are deceived. And I don't believe that they are.
I believe the primary function of propaganda, it is power announcing and establishing... What you will pretend. ...what the new reality is. Well, it's like a director saying, okay, today we're going to play this. Yeah, and today, and if you don't play this, you're going to be ostracized from society. You're going to be excluded from society. You're going to lose your friends. You're going to lose your job. Right. Right. And so it's not a matter of deception or, you know, lies versus the truth. It is the rolling out, you know, of a new scenario, a new reality, and announcing to everyone, this is now what you will conform to. Not only, but you're not going to pretend, you're actually going to believe it, even though you don't.
Mm-hmm. And this is where the doublethink really comes in. We're watching one reality being decommissioned and a new reality being implemented. Right. And we're watching it right in front of our eyes. And this is where I get a lot of arguments from people because, you know, there's reality at the table that I'm knocking on. Right. But the reality that I'm talking about is the reality that we create collectively together by agreement and through our behaviors and through our beliefs. Right. This is the reason that the masks have been so absolutely essential. You know, if you can imagine the whole rollout of the new normal without masks, it would not have worked. Right. The masks were, you know, brilliant and pure theater.
Right. The fact that we all walked around in society and were surrounded by people who were dressed up like they were, you know, living in the infectious disease ward of a hospital. It's irresistible. If you were surrounded by this behavior and by these symbols and by these images, it becomes a tangible reality. And the rules of that reality are then, you know, cemented and implemented. If you think of the mental and spiritual energy, the friction that it created to be maskless among the crowds of masked people. Right. You know, I experience it on a near daily basis, just going in to buy my groceries. Right. Right. I have a protest message on my mask. And just the wave of hostile energy that is directed at me for wearing that protest message on my mask, I'm not offending them.
These people are desperately conforming to a new reality that is being implemented right in this moment. And I am disrupting it. Right. I am walking in. So do you think they're hostile because they think, you know, if I have to do it, you have to do it. Why are you making it? What's the... I think what I represent to them with my protest message, I am Sweden. You know, in some of my own propaganda that I put out on social media, I used to, you know, pump out the pictures of Sweden just to remind everybody. Right. You know, that this global, you know, deadly thing that's devastating the entire world somehow missed Sweden. You know, meanwhile, Sweden... That's like Costco. Yeah. Sweden didn't, you know, Sweden, oh, whoops, they didn't go totalitarian, you know.
It's amazing how the places that had low debt and fully funded pension funds didn't have to go totalitarian. Correct. You can show people the picture of Sweden or I can walk in with my protest message. It's more than just, if I have to do it, you have to do it. What it is, it's a direct threat to reality. Right. And these are not people who have been living in this reality for 20 years. Which you have to understand is it's kind of a psychotic operation. Right. Right. Working very hard to forget the reality that they believed in a few months ago and conform their entire lives to a new reality that was just made up and issued. Right. And this is an incredibly stressful spiritual and psychological operation to go through. Well, to me, it's spiritual death.
It is. You're struggling to do this. You're struggling to adopt this new reality that part of you knows is completely insane. While you're struggling to do this, you know, here comes this asshole who is showing you that it's not reality and that you're performing a piece of theater. Right. Which is basically... Or an occult ritual. Correct. One of the chief tactics of Mr. Global and his minions is to insert incoherence into your world in a way that makes you crave coherence. And all you have to do is go through his toll booth and pay his fee. But if you just do these three things, you can come back to coherence. It's also just basic, you know, mind control, cult, you know, indoctrination techniques. I actually used a lot of this as an artist in the theater.
My first and best known play is actually built on exactly these same techniques in order to change somebody's mind. The first step is you have to disorganize and destabilize the mind that they came in with. And that's, you have to make that little hobgoblin appear. It's only when you disorient and destabilize that mind and yes, to a certain extent, create fear. Right. Yeah, create a level of fear where the mind no longer knows what reality is anymore, right? And it's out of its comfort zone. Our minds don't operate there. We don't. When reality disappears, you know, we desperately struggle for the next, well, give me a reality, give me a reality. What a cult leader does, having achieved that, I mean, you know, Manson did it with orgies and acid, right? And, you know, the CIA has done it with orgies and acid and various other things. There are many ways to do it, right?
Once that has been achieved, if you're a cult leader, if you're an authoritarian, if you're a totalitarian, then what you do is you implant your reality. It's like, oh, I'm sorry, are you, you know, having an existential, you know, freak out and you don't know what's going on anymore? Let me tell you what reality is. And that's when you can implant the new reality. Right. We've seen that done on a massive scale and it's still being done right now. And what's interesting to me about this one is I'm used to watching fake realities get created and sold, but I'm not used to one that is this, you know, it's, it's kind of like watching the establishment try and persuade the whole world that, that we really are a flat earth.
Do you know what I mean? It's like the flat earth and it's like a mind virus. In other words, they're trying to persuade you to adopt a philosophy that is completely contradictory to the laws of science, the laws of medicine, the laws of, you know, and so it's, it's the hubris of this one and how far away it is from scientific or medical reality or physical reality. It's quite extraordinary. Correct. The only thing I mean, this is their greatest creation. It's huge. You know, we talked, you know, a little bit earlier about the financial story of the financial coup and, and, and that bringing us up to the new normal, you know, I've been tracking more of the, the, the ideological part of the story. You know, people have been primed for this moment.
If you think back to the narrative during the Trump years, you know, first of all, this was Donald Trump that we're talking about. Right. Okay. And his whole history, you know, and his game shows and the whole thing and the Trump steaks and the whole thing. And suddenly it was announced, okay, you will now believe that Donald Trump, you know, Donald Trump is a secret Russian agent being controlled by Vladimir Putin. I don't think I could have made up anything as absurd as that. I mean, the ridiculousness of it. And yet we watched as millions of people, you know, actually adopted this narrative and said, okay, yeah, Donald Trump is a secret Russian agent or he's, you know, being controlled by Putin and what have you.
And this actually dominated most of, you know, American culture and global culture, frankly, right up until the time that Russiagate collapsed and the Mueller report came in and the whole thing just dissolved. And then we watched the propaganda machine on a dime switch. So, okay, maybe he's not, you know, a Russian agent or whatever, but he's literally the second coming of Adolf Hitler. And literally Donald Trump is leading and building a secret underground army of white supremacist militants who are going to frontally attack the United States government, you know, and take over the United States of America, dissolve democracy and institute, you know, some sort of fascist Trumpian Reich, you know, and we're laughing, but people believed this.
And this narrative continued all the way up to the, you know, the storming of the Capitol and, and it has continued since, you know, what we're talking about is not, it's not persuasion. You know, it's, it's, it's coercion. It is, you will believe this insane official narrative that we're presenting and you will parrot this narrative. You will go to your friend's dinner parties and you will have conversations about how Trump is possibly a Russian agent or we will punish you. Right. So, so my vision of this is if you're the, if you're the guys doing the Great Reset and you need a marketing plan, you can't say, oh, we're going to have a financial coup and we're going to steal your liberties and your money.
No. That's not a marketing plan. So you need a marketing plan. So to me, this is just the marketing plan. This propaganda is being rolled out globally. So not just in the United States. And, and I believe, you know, so much of it is about, it's about ushering in this new reality that we are being conditioned to adopt. You know, I think most of us walk into an airport for a flight, you know, we take out our liquids, we pull our computer out of the bag and depending on where we live, we take our shoes off and we don't think about this anymore. This is just what you do at the airport. It's a part of reality. Right. And we have forgotten the ridiculousness. No, I, I don't, I never forget. No, I know. But I'm saying most of us, most people, you know, I don't forget either.
But most people, it's just, they go through, this is, you know, what you do at the airport. It's just a part of reality. One of the main goals, and there are many, but one of the main goals of the new normal and this, the rollout of this new reality is to get us to the point where we are conditioned to take out our, you know, digital proof of, you know, vaccination or whatever, you know, our digital proof of compliance with whatever the latest directive was, you know, in order to go in and get a cup of coffee, in order to, you know, see a movie. Well, but if you're going to institute a complete control system, you know, once you've got everybody in the trap, it's easy. Yeah. The hard part is getting them into the trap.
So, you know, when you, when you get a group of sheep to go into the slaughterhouse, you use a Judas goat. Yeah. You know, basically the Judas goat walks them in. And walks out the other. Walks out the other side, and then they all get slaughtered. So, the question is, how can you walk them into the trap? Because I really believe that if we all go into the trap, there will be no human liberty. There will be no private assets there. You know, this is it. This is, Mike Yeadon said it the other day. He said, it's over. You know, if we, if we let this happen, we're talking about a thousand years of dark ages. So, this is the whole shebang. I think they need a story to get the trap, to get people into the trap so they can throw the trap.
And that story is, you know, these things we're talking about. They need the story, but it's, here's where I make that distinction again. Because the Judas goat, you know, again, works on deception. Yeah. The Judas goat is going along, and it's like, you know, let's follow the Judas goat. Right. You know, he's going, the Judas goat's not going to take us to a place where we're going to be, you know, slaughtered and eviscerated or anything. And so, it works on deception. Right. And I don't think that that is essentially how this works. I think. Oh, I do. Yeah. I don't. I think, you know, deception is a part of it. But I think essentially a new reality is, has, is being issued and has been issued. And, unfortunately, the vast majority of people, right, they say, okay, a new reality is being, you know, issued. And I don't want trouble, basically. I want to adapt to the new reality, whatever it is. Right. You know, and it's like, oh, I'm sorry, the new reality is really weird.
You know, it's like, okay, so I'm going to have to work a little harder to adapt to it. But I, but I still will, because I want to stay in the club of the normal. Right. And I agree that that's happening. But if you look at the whole population, I would say there are many different niches. You know, that's why you get so many different realities being, you know, sub, sub realities being marketed. Yeah. I think coercion has been a much bigger part of puppy training people to go along and say, I don't want trouble. So, for example, one very common one in the United States, you get somebody on porn, you use entrainment, you get them addicted. All you have to do is get them to watch one child porn, and then you've got them on a criminal offense.
Right. And it's a criminal offense where not only can you get them in court, but you can get them in the court of popular opinion. They could lose their family if you take them to court. So you've got them. And it's very inexpensive. I mean, you basically got them and it didn't cost you any money to get a control file. Now you've got a control file. They have to do what you say. That's what they think. They have to do what you say. And all you need, you know, for 10 or 20 percent of the population, if you get those highly economic control files, I mean, and that's what all these digital systems, they got control files on almost everybody. That coercion has been very important because one of the things that happens, if you're in a community, the people who are going to be naturally following are going to look at the guys who normally would stand up.
And if those guys have been controlled files and they don't fight, then the followers, you know, if the high performance guys are scared and not fighting, then the followers are definitely going to pull in behind them. And there you go. So I think there's been a huge effort to build the control file infrastructure. Okay. I think what I'm talking about is it's maybe a more primal phenomenon. And this just came to me and it may not be a good example or it might be a good example. You know, Nazis, concentration camps, you know, the trains pulled up, you know, people got off, you know, the trains. Somebody may have said, you know, oh, shit, they're going to kill us all. Right. I'm going to run. Bang. They kill him. Right. Right.
Somebody else may have said, oh, God, they're going to kill us all. I'm going to attack this, you know, SS guy. Boom. They kill him. Why did the people walk in line into the showers to be killed? Well, I think I do. So, which is if I just follow these orders and I walk where they tell me to walk and I go in here and I take my clothes off. That's my best shot. And, well, they're not going to kill me now.
This may sound crazy, but the idea is if I stand up and rebel, they'll kill me right now. If I run, they'll kill me right now. So let's just keep walking, even though a lot of us have a sense of where we're going, because they're not going to kill me now, you know, this is the type of coercion that I'm talking about. The pressure. Imagine that you are a high profile television journalist and the new normal is rolled out and you pick up some scientific facts and you look at it and you see how crazy it is. Right. And you know it's wrong and you know it's insane and you kind of have a sense of where it's going. You have a choice. Right. You have a big megaphone. You can say something about this, but what will happen to you if you do?
Right. No Nazi is going to shoot you, but you're going to lose your job immediately. Right. You're not going to be on television anymore. You're going to be completely ostracized from your entire social circle. Your, you know, husband may divorce you. You're, you're going to lose pretty much your entire life and you know this. In other words, I don't know where this, I'm this TV person and you know, this all looks wrong and weird to me. All right. But I know that if I speak up now, they're going to kill me now. Okay. So I want to tell you one of my favorite stories from Jung. Yeah. So a woman came to see Jung and here was her story. As a young woman, she had gone to medical school and become a doctor and then had fallen in love with her best friend's husband.
Okay. And her way of resolving the tension, given that she'd gone to medical school and knew how to do it, was she decided to poison and murder her best friend, which she did, got away with it, and then proceeded to marry the husband. Shortly after getting married, she got pregnant and then the husband died. And then she had beautiful wolfhounds who suddenly died. Her husband died, the wolfhounds died. She was an accomplished horsewoman. Every time she got on the horse, they would buck and rear. She had to give up riding. As soon as her daughter was old enough to run away, she ran away, wanted nothing to do with her. She hated her her whole life. And the woman came to Jung and she said, wherever she was, the birds would stop singing.
She said, the birds knew. And she believed that maybe if she could confess to all of her sins, that somehow she could clear her field and somehow re-enter society. Because she felt wherever she was, there was, in the field, there was hatred towards her for what she had done. So she was trying to confess and clean her sins. So whenever anybody tells me, you know, I'm trying to figure out how to get the money to work in America, I keep saying, you're never going to get the money to work because the birds have stopped singing. And you can't, the liquidity can't start up unless, you know, the birds are singing. And there's something happening spiritually in the field. And that's what you write about. You write about what's going wrong in the field.
Now, if you create a simulated reality created by a machine, and we coercively agree to go along with it because we're scared, the birds will never sing. You know, it's a mess in the field because the field is on one hand contrived and on the other side in total grief. And there's no shared field. There's no shared intelligence other than this group is going, you know, is sharing the machine, what the machine is telling them. So it's no longer a human society. It's just a machine resource management system. It's pretty gruesome. It is. You know, you remember we just talked about that the cult techniques of the first thing that I need to do is disarrange your mind, you know, deprogram your mind, break up the reality that you walked in here with so that then I can implant my own.
What I tried to do in the theater and what I continue to try to do really with all my work is to do that first stage, is to get that mind, you know, deconstructed, disarranged so that it is open, so that it is capable of reforming. And the only difference is I don't have a new reality. I don't have a new ideology that I want to implant. Right. All I want to do is shatter the one that you've already been implanted with, you know. What I see you saying to people is, is this really the reality you want to create? Correct. They have the power to create a reality. Correct. That we all have a power to create a reality together. I'm saying, you're not saying don't create this reality or create this other reality.
You're saying, is this really the reality that you want to create? And more than I say, because it's impossible not to do it. You know, it is impossible for us not to collectively create reality. And the first thing I'm- We do. Yes. Right. And the first thing I'm trying to do is say, look at the reality that we are collectively creating now. Right. Look at that. Right. Is that what you want to live in? Is this where you want to live? Right. You know, exactly. And, you know, yes. And if not, guess what? God didn't issue that reality to you. That reality didn't come from, you know, physics. That reality, the reality that I'm talking about is the reality that we create collectively. We have the power to determine that reality.
Yeah. And if you don't like the one that we're living in, the one that we're creating collectively right now- Let's create something else. We have the power to change it. Right. We don't have to wait for them to change it. We don't have to wait for physics to change it. We can change it. We have that power. Right. Yeah. And one of the things we can do is we can create friction. Yes. Their reality depends on no friction. Correct. Friction throws a huge wrench in the gears. And to go back to your subway track metaphor, their reality depends on me looking down on those tracks and they're just two rails. Right. They're just two. I look in there. I just, you know, two rails. And then somebody comes along, you know, with a wet coin or something or whatever.
I don't know how it works. And throws it on the third rail and the third rail. Right. And the person's, you know- What's that? Exactly. And this is not persuasion. That act, that act of activating that third rail, it is a tangible, you know, material disruption of this simulation that has been generated by the propaganda. And I believe that type of force is what is required. Some people are persuadable. So I want to ask you about three things that relate to propaganda. Sure. One is that in this society, fact is fiction and fiction is fact. We constantly see movies that tell you a slice about what's going behind the secrecy wall that are allowed to run. It's almost like a steam valve. Mm-hmm. And so reality is allowed out as long as it's fiction.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And that seems to placate the building pressure. What's that about? Well, part of it is also preparation for where we're going. Things are rolled out in, you know, science fiction and movies and what have you to just create the concept of something that is possible. You know, you write about transhumanism a lot. Right. And we could go back and track, you know, the evolution of the introduction of this, you know, concept into popular culture. I mean, where do we want to start with the original Westworld with, you know, the first robot things? And you could watch this concept just being introduced into society so that it becomes one of many possibilities, one of many concepts. Oh, sure, you know, cyborgs and, you know, the Terminator.
Yeah, of course, you know. And then one day, you know, people find that they, yeah, absolutely, one day we will end up, you know, as sort of, you know, cybernetic organisms with, you know, implantable programs here and mechanical arms there. I think popular culture, entertainment, you know, the culture industry itself, it is, again, getting back to church. You know, it's the place where we alter and revise reality, right? Okay. It's where the priest says, there's a new revelation. Mm-hmm. Yeah, there's a new revelation. Yes, all the things, you know, all the gospel that we believed before, you know, is there, but I've received a new revelation, right? And so let's all, you know, congregation, let's get together and we'll deal with this new revelation.
That function, you know, has largely been taken over by the culture industry and, you know, entertainment. Okay, so there's a second aspect of propaganda that always amazes me, and that is gross oversimplification. Mm-hmm. So all sickness in the world, everywhere, and all these different sort of phenomena going on, it's one virus. Yes. You know, might as well be named Harry, you know, one virus named Harry. Exactly. You see it, I have one friend who swears that the database that was a database of all-known terrorists at the Department of Justice at the time of 9-11 was just called Al-Qaeda. Mm-hmm. So they just said Al-Qaeda as though it was an organization, it had bylaws, it had a board of directors, it had a bank account. Mm-hmm.
You know, like it was one thing. And the theory is people are too stupid to embrace complex phenomena, so they need these simple, it's almost like a, you know, like a puppet show. Yeah, I don't think it's because people are too stupid or necessarily that the propagandists believe that people are too stupid. But it's, again, again, if I'm putting you in the position where I'm going to roll out a narrative now, you know, I'm going to roll out a narrative, and we're all under, you know, threat of terrorist attack, you know, imminent terrorist attack at any minute, you know. It could be biological, you know, weapons, you know, in New York City, you know, at any moment, so, you know, take your shoes off and put your liquids in the thing. You know, if I'm rolling out that narrative, and you're an intelligent person, and you're thinking, you know, I'm going to take my liquids out and, you know, let the people grope my kids at the airport, this isn't going to, you know, your mind might drift in that direction.
But if I can give you a simple fairy tale, you know, if I can give you that. I call them adult fairy tales. Exactly. If I can give you that adult fairy tale in advance, in advance, because your mind doesn't want to ask those questions. Right. You want to stay with the herd, you want to stay with the... I want the story that'll... You want to stay inside. Right. You want to stay with the normal people, you know, and continue to keep your job and your family and your friends, and you want to stay with the normal people, right? The problem is you're intelligent, and your mind starts drifting off in that direction. If I can give you this simple fairy tale, right, every time your mind might start drifting off into these critical questions... No, the fairy tale's there.
Every time you tell that, I think of this horrible moment when the, you know, right after the Patriot Act was passed, I was flying domestically in the United States, and I was behind a sort of a four-year-old child and his father. And the child was watching the take the shoes off, put the liquids in the thing, and he turned to his father, and he said, why do we have to do this? And his father said, oh, the people are making us safe. And I thought, oh, God, this is where it starts. Yeah, and if you believe it, you know, if you pretend to believe it, I'll pretend to believe it, and we'll both pretend to believe it, and then suddenly we'll believe it, and anyway, the Orwellian double-think is what comes in.
So simple was the question I asked. The next question is about complexity. Okay. Because one of the greatest cover stories for financial fraud is complexity. It was a giant mistake. It was an accident. We didn't realize it because it's so complicated that we couldn't figure it out. Right. It's really complicated. So we can't have financial statements in the federal government for over 20 years because it's too complicated for us to figure out, and it works. Yeah. It's unbelievable to me. It's just unbelievable. It always works. I'll give you another example, perfect example of this with the new normal because there are many people that are singing exactly this tune. You know, there are some alternative journalists, you know, in the circles that I travel in, virtually travel in, when the new normal was rolled out.
And these are people who have, you know, for years traditionally, you know, just been criticizing, you know, imperialism and, you know, criticized the, you know, Russiagate and criticized all of these things. These are, you know, anti-establishment, anti-authoritarian, you know, from the left and the right. You know, completely, you would expect them to jump up, you know, and criticize and object and deconstruct the whole thing from the beginning. And they didn't. And some of us is saying, what are you doing? What are you doing? We just spent, you know, four, five, six years together, you know, critiquing propaganda and official narratives. And this one rolls out and you're, and you're buying it, you know, what, what is going on?
And the response that, that has come back is, well, science is too complicated. There you go. It's too complicated. I don't have, you know, I don't have the ability to understand, you know, all of these complex, virological, you know, scientific issues. So I have to trust the experts, which is insane. It's, you can, you can understand, you can understand all of the, this entire propaganda machine and the construction of official narratives and, you know, imperialism and, and so on. And suddenly you don't have the ability, you know, to understand some simple scientific principles. The other part of this example, and, and it goes back to it not being about persuasion, is the experience of talking to someone who was completely, you know, in the Covidian cult, completely bought the narrative.
And presenting them just with the simple, clear facts, not going, not going into, you know, scary places or anything, but just simple facts of, here's how they're recording, you know, Covid hospitalizations. You know, basically anybody who's in the hospital that they tested with a PCR test, it doesn't matter. You've got cancer. If they breathe, they have Covid. You've got a broken leg, you know, you need eye surgery, whatever. If you, if we tested you and we got the reading, now you're a Covid hospitalization. Same thing with Covid deaths. You can, you can, and I have done this repeatedly, you can present this information very clearly in a rational way without screaming and saying, look at this, look, look at these facts. And they will look at the facts and in some cases even acknowledge the facts that completely deconstruct the official narrative.
And yet they will refuse to get out of line. Right. They will refuse to depart. This shows me that, that it is, it is a question of allegiance. Right. Allegiance to the new normal narrative rather than having been persuaded by the new normal narrative. Right. So you said we have to pick sides. There are two sides. We embrace your field and we walk wherever you go, no matter what you say. Or instead, we believe we have the power to invent our world and we reject your world. Hmm. We don't, we don't want to live in your world. Hmm. Yeah. I've become, I think, unfortunately, less funny. And increasingly. You have gotten a tad serious. And increasingly, I'm scared. You know, it's, it's, you know, I'm, I'm angry and I'm scared.
You know something, a friend of mine told me once about a, a game where you, you, you, you and your friends all go to a mansion that has many rooms. So let's say it has 40 rooms. And you write down on slips of paper, you get 41 slips of paper and you write down your most valuable possessions. And then you go through the mansion and in each room you have to give up one possession. Until you come down to the last room and you have two left and you have to find out what's the most important. Okay. So I played that game in real life. And, and I want, it's like an audit process. And you find out, you know, you get down to the last room and it's your life or your freedom. You have to choose. Right. So I chose freedom.
And now that I've been through that process, it's all very clear to me. And the thing that would terrify me is waking up and finding myself basically selling my immortal soul down the river for, you know. So, so slavery to me is frightening. All the other things that can happen doing what you and I do, that's not frightening. That's not frightening. And it's not frightening because once upon a time, you know, I missed being in the establishment. I don't miss being in the establishment now. I'm so happy that I made the choices I made. And it was a hard road. You know, you had to go it alone a long time. But now that you're out, it's fantastic. Freedom is really, I can't, I recommend it so much. It's great. And, you know, something, I hang out all day long and I work for the most wonderful people in the world.
So, in that respect, I love my life. I don't like the environment, but I love my life. So, I'm afraid of slavery. I'm not afraid of whatever, whatever tyranny might do to me. Yeah, I'm not even talking about personally. I mean, you know, when I say I'm afraid, it's not that I think that the new totalitarianism is going to win. I don't. It doesn't win. But it will kill millions of people. Exactly. And it will create. If we're lucky. Billions if we're not. And it will create immense suffering and horror for children and people and what scares me. And the reason that I've become less and less funny, I think, and much more confrontational. In the beginning, I admit, you know, I thought that this would pass away.
I thought this would be done by now. And it is now clear to me that this was not just a moment, that this was the beginning of a transformation that is being effectuated. And it depends on how fast they do it. But this is going to take years. Yes. And they're playing for the whole ball of wax here. Yes. And I've become more confrontational. And yes, in my last piece. Well, you're trying to get people to take responsibility for their choices. Yes. In the simulation, it's, you know, oh, you know, my, you know, brother-in-law, you know, can't join us, you know, for dinner because he's unvaccinated. And actually, you know, he lost his job, you know, because, you know, he's unvaccinated. And, you know, you know, somebody beat him up the other day because they perceived him as, you know, a dangerous health threat.
And, you know, that's kind of his fault. And if he would just get vaccinated and join, you know, that's, you know, in the simulation. Right. And what I'm trying to do is break through that narrative and the way I'm trying to do it right now is saying global segregation system. What's being implemented, you know, countries all around the world in sync is a global segregation system that is designed to physically segregate anyone who is not conforming to the new reality, to the new ideology. Countries are doing it differently. Some countries are still allowing people to produce, you know, test results. Right. Right. And I wrote in a different piece. It doesn't really matter whether it is a, you know, vaccination pass or a test.
The point is the demonstration of compliance. Yes, I'm with the new reality. Yes, I will show you my vaccine. I'll show you my test result. I'll put the mask on. It's here. I'm displaying my conformity to the new reality. And what is being implemented is a social segregation system. To demonize and segregate political opponents because that's what we are. We're not anti-vaxxers. We're not conspiracy theorists. The way I understand myself, I am a political opponent. There is a political ideological fight. Right. We're not vaccine hesitant. This is another term that, you know, is being rolled out by the propagandists. You know, we're not vaccine hesitant. We are political opponents. We absolutely reject the world that you are ushering into being.
Right. We reject the values of this world that you are ushering into being. We oppose your ideology. Right. We oppose the type of society that you want to create. We don't want to live in it. We are your political, you know, ideological and, yes, spiritual opponents. And this is a fight. And in this fight, you know, in this fight, there are the fanatical new normals, you know, and these are the people, you know, screaming hatred now at the unvaccinated. And it is just classic textbook development of totalitarianism. You can go back and read the history of Germany in the 30s. People can read Milton Mayer's account. Right. Textbook, what is happening, you know, the demonization that is being rolled out. There are the fanatical new normals.
And there's us on the other side. We're fighting, you know, and we are fighting against this. And then there's a whole bunch of people who want to believe that they're not on either side. And, oh, these people are so rude and these people are so rude. And we're not on either side, but we just want to get, you know, vaccinated and wear our mask and do our thing. And a lot of what I'm trying to do is say, you don't get to stay there. You don't get to stay in this imaginary middle ground. You're either fighting this or you're assisting it or you're collaborating with it. Those are the only two options right now. I think people need to be confronted with the fact that, you know, sitting in your kitchen, you know, doing your bratwurst and, you know, looking the other way, you know, while the Gestapo hauls the Jewish family out of the house across the street. This is not being neutral.
This is collaborating with the fascism. Right. You know, looking away, you know, is not neutral. You either fight what's coming or you're a part of it. Right. So, as I said before, I don't think they're setting up a segregation system. I think they're setting up a smart grid. And whatever they're trying to get in our bodies, they need a certain percentage of adoption. And for that reason, they need a high percentage of adoption. And they can't afford for anybody not to be in the system. Yeah. We've talked about this. And I've been honest with you. You know, some of the stuff that you've written about and some of the stuff you see on the horizon, I react like the normals. Right. Like the new normals. I hear that stuff, and my mind says, I can't absorb this. And then my mind says, well, wait a minute. No, I understand they have this technology.
This technology exists. Right. Why wouldn't they use it? You know, why wouldn't it be used? And then my mind says, no, no, no, I can't handle that. You know, and it's denial. It's my mind. It's I'm not immune. I'm a human being like everybody else. And it's interesting to watch my own mind try to push a whole area of inquiry away because it's too scary. See, I can't do that because in the money world, you have to deal with risk. You can't, if you start a company or you make an investment, the only way you can succeed is if you face all the risk and plan and price it in and take care of it, get insurance. Whatever you have to do to manage the risk, the faster you do it, the better chance you have of succeeding.
And so it's one of the reasons I regularly on the Solari Report will talk about things that I'm told isn't kosher. But my attitude is I need to turn the ship before I hit the iceberg. So I don't mind saying that there's an iceberg. I know it's unpleasant, but you have to be able to turn in time. Yeah. Yeah. I just wanted to confess because I am a human being in the same process that I described going on in other people. I experience it myself. I'm no different than anybody else. The other part of it, and I probably shouldn't say this on camera, but I'm going to say it anyway. Be my guest. The other part of it is strategic. You know, I am a communicator. I'm a, you know, a propagandist. I'm a good propagandist is the way I think of myself in the sense I'm trying to get messages out. I'm trying to do something to people's minds.
I'm trying to, I'm advocating for my side of this fight, you know, which I believe is the right side, the human side of this fight. And I feel like, and I feel like, and this doesn't mean that other people can't go that far, but I feel like, I feel like I need to do what I'm doing in steps. Right. And right now, I'm finding it so challenging to simply get people to see, to actually see, oh, I'm a segregationist. You know, a lot of the people I'm talking to are liberals, you know, and people on the left. And it's a very simple thing that I'm trying to do is I'm saying to them, congratulations, you are now a segregationist. That's what you are. And there's a whole freak out that comes with that. And it's, I'm not a segregationist, it's not racial segregation, and there's one of this and that, and the health thing, and there's no public health.
I said, no, you're a segregationist. That's what you're doing. I was going to say, when a vaccinated person is so lacking in confidence in the vaccination that they don't believe it can protect them from the unvaccinated. It doesn't, it doesn't matter. Again. It's back to the, it's the propaganda. You're talking logic. The story that best describes what you're describing to me was in 2014, the Republicans were trying to hold the Senate. Okay. Everything they were doing was not working. You know, and the polls clearly showed they were in danger of losing it. Right. And it went on and on, and they tried this, and they tried that, and finally they were down to the last six or eight weeks before the election. And, and so they decided, okay, scorched earth.
Suddenly, guy gets off the plane in Dallas, Texas, Bush country, with Ebola. And suddenly, on every front page in America, it's Ebola, Ebola, Ebola. You have a black president, he's going to bring in black people from Africa. Everybody's going to Ebola, we're all going to die. And it is so over the top. It is more over the top than Trump is a Russian agent. It was just, and it went from one guy getting off a plane to the whole country dying in like a week. Okay, so this is front page. Meantime, I'm, I'm subscribed to these business newsletters. Okay. The shriek-o-meter in the Wall Street Journal is screaming we're all going to die. And the newsletters are sending messages saying, don't worry about Ebola. It has no practical implications in your business.
Just ignore it. You know, so you're getting this multiple personality. The Republicans win the Senate. The next day, it's page seven. The next day, gone. Gone. Completely gone. No Ebola at all. Absolutely. And it worked. It worked like a charm. Absolutely. The way that one narrative is abruptly dropped and a new narrative is implemented these days, to me, it's just glaring. We have so many examples of this. I mean, I mentioned the switch from, you know, COVID is going to kill hundreds of millions of people to cases. You're right. That literally happened in the course of a week. I remember. You know, it's in one of my pieces, in one of my essays. Two or three days after the Mueller report blew up. Uh-huh. The guy that runs the Times, I forgot his name, sat the staff down and announced, you know, announced we're switching the narrative.
Right? From now on, you know, Russia is over and everything is going to be racism. It's going to be racism from now, you know, until he's gone. Literally. This is documented. You know, it's not something that I made up. It's documented. It's, you know, it's there. The citations are there. Literally sat the staff down and told them that clearly. We're changing official narrative. Right? It's not Trump Russia anymore. It's Trump racist. Right? And they did it. You know, and they did it. And played it out right to the very end, you know. And then suddenly Biden was inaugurated, you know, in a, you know, what to me was just an archetypical fascist spectacle. It was fair. I've never seen so many scared people in my life.
What were they all so scared about? D.C. was surrounded by fences. You know, it was completely surrounded by fences, occupied by soldiers. You know, the National Guard was occupying the entire city. No actual people were allowed to attend the inauguration. They even did the, you know, the Nazi Lichtdom thing to just kind of cap it off. You know, and Biden is inaugurated. And, oh, suddenly, you know, the world is not as racist anymore. You know, and just that whole narrative just started to dissipate. It's still there to some degree, but if you look at the intensity of it pre-election and after Biden's inauguration, it's amazing to me the abrupt switches that they are pulling off. Well, remember, all they need is this distraction while they, I mean, they're delinking the military and moving it global.
They're delinking the rules and regulations for the operations, moving it global. They're delinking. They're taking over the Treasury and making that global. And all they need is to fill up the space while they do that. Yeah, I think it's more than that, but, you know. I don't know. I think, you know, the hardest thing I find for Americans is to understand it's over. What's over? The American government. Yes. There's no sovereign American government. Yes. And they don't know that yet. Yes. It's the disjunction between reality, what is actually happening in the physical material world, and the movie, you know, and the simulation. And again, it gets back to, you know, I just used myself as an example, I think, for a lot of people, you know, you can show them over here, oh, look, see, there's no connection here.
And it's been delinked, and it's like, God, that is so horrible, I'm going back to the movie. Renewed hostile actions against United States ships on the high seas and the Gulf of Tonkin have today required me to order the military forces of the United States to take action in reply. I take the fact that he develops weapons of mass destruction very seriously. For example, they can produce anthrax and botulinum toxin. In fact, they can produce enough dry biological agent in a single month to kill thousands upon thousands of people. He doesn't believe in the worth of each individual. He doesn't believe in public dissent. The world is now at the start of the 2009 influenza pandemic.
Every day for countries to take urgent and aggressive action. Normalcy only returns when we've largely vaccinated the entire global population. Instead of the virus being able to hop from person to person to person, potentially mutating and becoming more virulent and drug resistant along the way, now we know that the vaccines work well enough that the virus stops with every vaccinated person.
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